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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear many Chinese fathers are like that too. But I&#039;m not okay with it. I need more than what he gives me.

It surprises me to hear that you started to understand his point of view when you became a father yourself, when you&#039;ve learned to give full attention to your son. You&#039;ve been able to break the cycle, something your dad wasn&#039;t able to do for you. I would have thought this would have the opposite effect; that you would understand even less why he was the way he was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear many Chinese fathers are like that too. But I&#8217;m not okay with it. I need more than what he gives me.</p>
<p>It surprises me to hear that you started to understand his point of view when you became a father yourself, when you&#8217;ve learned to give full attention to your son. You&#8217;ve been able to break the cycle, something your dad wasn&#8217;t able to do for you. I would have thought this would have the opposite effect; that you would understand even less why he was the way he was.</p>
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		<title>By: Jin</title>
		<link>http://equivocality.com/2008/11/23/conversations-with-my-father/#comment-28871</link>
		<dc:creator>Jin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, it must be a Chinese dad thing :) (stereotypically speaking of course).

I love my dad, and I know he loves me too. However we never display any physical affection towards each other. I don&#039;t think he and his father did either. 

Sometimes I wish I can just give him a hug, but the concept seems so foreign to the both of us. But I&#039;m OK with it. I&#039;m OK with this comfortable, silence distance we have.

I didn&#039;t feel close to my dad until I became a father myself. I began to understand why my dad did the things he did, from another father&#039;s pov. I also think he tries to make up for the lack of display of affection towards me, by giving his full attention to my son. 

Even though my dad never appraised me, hugged me or showed interest in what I do like my mother did, I feel his influence(positive) on me is enormous. It didn&#039;t occur to me until I was older. It kind just snuck up on me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, it must be a Chinese dad thing <img src='http://equivocality.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  (stereotypically speaking of course).</p>
<p>I love my dad, and I know he loves me too. However we never display any physical affection towards each other. I don&#8217;t think he and his father did either. </p>
<p>Sometimes I wish I can just give him a hug, but the concept seems so foreign to the both of us. But I&#8217;m OK with it. I&#8217;m OK with this comfortable, silence distance we have.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t feel close to my dad until I became a father myself. I began to understand why my dad did the things he did, from another father&#8217;s pov. I also think he tries to make up for the lack of display of affection towards me, by giving his full attention to my son. </p>
<p>Even though my dad never appraised me, hugged me or showed interest in what I do like my mother did, I feel his influence(positive) on me is enormous. It didn&#8217;t occur to me until I was older. It kind just snuck up on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://equivocality.com/2008/11/23/conversations-with-my-father/#comment-28866</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;@Dennis&lt;/strong&gt; &#8212; I think it&#039;s really sad that it takes something like an illness for true feelings to come out in some people. My father (and his father) are the exact same way with sharing things only to people outside of the family, but just as you say, I know never to make the same mistakes with my friends and family.

But it&#039;s a bittersweet lesson, something I don&#039;t think anyone should have to go through. Like saying that surviving some horrible tragedy has given someone character.

&lt;strong&gt;@Xibee&lt;/strong&gt; &#8212; I don&#039;t really enjoy what I get, but I do need to learn to expect less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>@Dennis</strong> &mdash; I think it&#8217;s really sad that it takes something like an illness for true feelings to come out in some people. My father (and his father) are the exact same way with sharing things only to people outside of the family, but just as you say, I know never to make the same mistakes with my friends and family.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s a bittersweet lesson, something I don&#8217;t think anyone should have to go through. Like saying that surviving some horrible tragedy has given someone character.</p>
<p><strong>@Xibee</strong> &mdash; I don&#8217;t really enjoy what I get, but I do need to learn to expect less.</p>
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		<title>By: Xibee</title>
		<link>http://equivocality.com/2008/11/23/conversations-with-my-father/#comment-28855</link>
		<dc:creator>Xibee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My father outrightly scoffed at pretty much anything I did for years until I worked for the SF Opera.  Then, even though it was not my best job since that time, I was suddenly worthy of a &quot;Hmmph!  How about that.&quot;   Dads are wierd birds, expect little and enjoy what you get.  I still want to punch him even now mostly.  But I just sigh and think he means well.

BTW, two earrings on a Chinese dad of yours&#039; age?  That&#039;s not mommy.  Uh-uh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father outrightly scoffed at pretty much anything I did for years until I worked for the SF Opera.  Then, even though it was not my best job since that time, I was suddenly worthy of a &#8220;Hmmph!  How about that.&#8221;   Dads are wierd birds, expect little and enjoy what you get.  I still want to punch him even now mostly.  But I just sigh and think he means well.</p>
<p>BTW, two earrings on a Chinese dad of yours&#8217; age?  That&#8217;s not mommy.  Uh-uh.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis (Scotland)</title>
		<link>http://equivocality.com/2008/11/23/conversations-with-my-father/#comment-28842</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis (Scotland)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff. This post touched me greatly.

I could never really bond with my father who showed little interest in what I was doing. He could never say the things I longed to hear (until it was too late!) I found out though when illness began to overtake him just how much he did care and how proud he was of me from others to whom he had spoken about me. I found it strange that he could relate his feelings to friends outside the family circle when my mother and I were the ones who longed to know. That&#039;s the way it is with some people, I guess. 

But some good came from it when I realised that I was beginning to show a tendency to tread the same path. So I vowed then and there that I would be more open with family and friends and show them how much I cared for them. Sometimes you only get back from life what you put in. I&#039;m richer for the experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff. This post touched me greatly.</p>
<p>I could never really bond with my father who showed little interest in what I was doing. He could never say the things I longed to hear (until it was too late!) I found out though when illness began to overtake him just how much he did care and how proud he was of me from others to whom he had spoken about me. I found it strange that he could relate his feelings to friends outside the family circle when my mother and I were the ones who longed to know. That&#8217;s the way it is with some people, I guess. </p>
<p>But some good came from it when I realised that I was beginning to show a tendency to tread the same path. So I vowed then and there that I would be more open with family and friends and show them how much I cared for them. Sometimes you only get back from life what you put in. I&#8217;m richer for the experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Life for Beginners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life for Beginners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Inside, I’m showing him how to use Photoshop, to take the wrinkles out of his friend’s faces. Anything helps at this age, I suppose.&quot;

That&#039;s gently funny, in a bittersweet manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Inside, I’m showing him how to use Photoshop, to take the wrinkles out of his friend’s faces. Anything helps at this age, I suppose.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s gently funny, in a bittersweet manner.</p>
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