26 Jan 07

The Old Boys of '99: Seeto and Bunston

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Henry Seeto, Orr’s

Henry was the self-proclaimed “Pi Man”. He could recite the numbers of pi to 40 some-odd digits, and enthusiastically enjoyed the opportunity to prove this once in the middle of class, oblivious as to how fatal it could be for a reputation when doing such things in high-school.

He was a total dork. He wore regular socks with shorts, pulled straight up of course, on his lanky frame. Sang in the choir. Was a member of the science club, computer club, and mathematics society. Under his picture in the yearbook is Euler’s equation, “e-1 pi = -1″, and he even clarified the way the name is pronounced.

I imagine that he had no contact with females whatsoever. One time, someone happened to have a porno in English class. We were supposed to watch King Lear, but they swapped the tapes when Mr. ______ was out. As soon as he came back, Henry’s edge-of-seat giddiness completely gave us away; the potential to see boobies turned him into a giggling schoolgirl. Mr. ______ knew what we were up to but played the tape anyway. It was in medias res, and Mr. ______ only stopped when the guy pulled out completely and brandished a seven inch dong.

When I arrived at UCC, Henry was my first “friend”. We came from similar backgrounds, had the same interests, and both lacked social skills. It was a natural kinship. But when I started redefining myself, as most kids do in high school, he came to represent everything in myself that I hated. I started picking on him and mocking him. He didn’t deserve it. I don’t think it hurt him, because of how oblivious he was, but that’s no excuse. To this day, I still can’t stand his type of person. As nice as they are, they’re all too clichéd and predictable.

John’s Notes:

“Henry was the archetypal geek. There were a lot of geeks at UCC but even amongst that crowd, he stood out. He was a genius with computers, but he had no other qualities that I can recall. No redeeming coolness at all. None. He was a savant. But he was OK with that. I’ve always aspired to be above the views of others, but Seeto mastered this. He was the kind of guy who wouldn’t think twice about wearing the school uniform, be it for class, gym, or more formal occasions in such a way as to “out” his geekiness to the world.

That’s the kind of place UCC was. A place that toughened you and armored you. You either survived and became comfortable in your own geeky skin, showing it to the world and daring the world to say something, or you just didn’t survive.”

Henry completed his master’s of engineering in telecommunications at the University of Toronto and is with Cisco Systems in North Carolina as an associate systems engineer.


Andrew “Bunny” Bunston, Jackson’s

Even though we were in the same house, I didn’t get to know Bunsten at all. He was a jock, but not one of the mean ones, which I came to appreciate. A smallish guy, he more than made up for his small frame with an iron toughness. Under the hockey section of the yearbook, he’s quoted as saying, “I hate neckguards. I’d rather die.”

John’s Notes:

“I can remember Andrew when we were 12 and he had shoulder length, curly hair. We were in the same form 5 class with Mr. Boyko. He was a real troublemaker, always with a mischievous look in his eye. He had the same look in his eye last weekend at the bar, when we were recounting stories of our misspent youth.

I think his nickname was derived from his relatively small stature (for a hockey player) and high speed on the ice. He still plays, and was captain of the Windsor Law hockey team that won — for the fifth consecutive time — the Law Games hockey tournament. He’s totally on that UCC Old Boy power track, up through the ranks of Bay street corporate law.”

Andrew Bunsten finished his second year of law school at the University of Windsor and worked last summer in the capital markets and securities group. He was also on the secondment to the Ontario Securities Commission in the corporate finance group.

The Old Boys of ‘99 Series

  1. Introduction
  2. Another Perspective
  3. Seeto and Bunston
  4. Mungovan and King
  5. Providing Ignorance as Bliss
  6. My Perspective
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Wow. I thought that reciting Pi thing only existed in Weird Al’s White & Nerdy song. People really DO that? It’s too bad he was that dorky — I could see him becoming not bad looking with some work. But white socks & shorts? eek.

Actually, there are competitions to see who can recite the most numbers. 40 is nothing compared to the 12000+ digits of some record holders. That’s a fairly flattering picture actually…he had a much more prominent overbite, but his smile is the same.

#3Amy

Your post is the world’s greatest proof of reincarnation; no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime.

Henry is one of the sweetest guys I know and your complete dismissal of his better qualities only speaks to your ignorance. If that post was intended as a joke, you forgot to include the punch line. Any friend of yours is a lousy judge of character. Seriously, I’ve come across decomposing dog carcases that are less offensive to the senses than you are. You have the warm appeal of a moldy sweat sock and about as much class as a bucket of mucous lodged on top of a dumpster in a Blue Light district of New Jersey. Maybe you wouldn’t read like such a pathetic loser if you didn’t eat all those paint chips and lead pencils when you were a kid. Who am I kidding? You would.

I’m busy trying to imagine you with a personality. Maybe you’d be less boring once I got to know you, but I don’t want to take that chance. No doubt your life is so dull, that you can actually write your diary one week in advance. You are the kind of person who, when one first meets you, one doesn’t like you. But when one gets to know you better, one hates you.

I am reminded of something relevant that Benjamin Disraeli said: “He was distinguished for ignorance - for he had only one idea and that was wrong.” Do yourself and everyone else a favor: disconnect your computer from the Internet.

#4Joe

So, I have the utmost PLEASURE of sitting next to Henry Seeto everyday at work. Let me tell you ….Henry Seeto can beat you at life any day, any time! He may giggle at the sight of naked women, he may play video games all weeked long…but guess what? He’s got an amazing career, friends that are WAY cooler than you or your posse WILL ever be, and clearly loyal since we are not letting you get away with this even if it was a long time ago. He is gonna be rich, successful, have a hot wife and live it up in Toronto and meanwhile, you are gonna be sitting alone in your mom’s basement, waiting for her to finish cleaning your white tities.

Henry is doing really good for himself and honestly, the nerds (which i was part of) always get the hottest girls and the best future. Enjoy your meaningless existence ….We are the ones that actually make a difference in the world and leave a lasting impression …the only impression you will leave is the butt print on the lazyboy chair in front of your 12″ TV.

#5Your Mom !!

Sorry guy, my kid is just pissed because henry fucked me SOOO many time :S
I apologize for Jeff, next time I will use some rubber because now 3 of my younger kid will be know the PI by hard too :S

Your arguments would be harder to dismiss if they weren’t so poor.

The main fallacy is that of ad hominem. You attack me, instead of defending Henry. You could have pointed out that Henry’s unique qualities have allowed him to excel well beyond the norm in mathematics, land an excellent career that many would be envious of, and have awesome friends (such as yourselves, of course). You may even have mentioned the fact that he plays a mean piano, or has a good singing voice, or maybe even something that I didn’t know. Instead, you make rambling metaphors about how “offensive” and “dumb” I am.

You also try to make absolute definitions on relative and incomparable subjects, such as success. Aside from the fact that being “better” or “hot” or “cool” are completely subjective, you say success is having a better job, a hotter girlfriend (because that’s the measure of a woman, not intelligence, kindness, creativeness…), and cooler friends. Someone with these beats me at life? How shallow and one-dimensional. The Dalai Lama must suck at life too. He doesn’t even HAVE a girlfriend.

You don’t know me, but you make some pretty ridiculous claims. You’ve never met my friends. You don’t know the size of my TV. You don’t know if I’m living with my mom, or even if she’s still alive. It’s hard to take your comments seriously when they’re based on nothing, and if you actually took the time to find out, you’d realize out that they’re all wrong. Even if you read the last six months of my entries that contradict everything you’ve stated, I doubt your minds would allow you to see anything past what you want to believe.

At least my entry was based on the fact that I went to school with Henry for four years. Sure, I didn’t know him completely, but at least it was based on something. You guys based your statements on a single entry that presented a view you didn’t like.

I never judged Henry. I never tried to insult him. Just because I didn’t mention his other qualities, doesn’t mean they didn’t exist. I simply gave my opinion; that he was a dork, in high school at that. Eight years ago. That doesn’t mean that he never changed, cause I wouldn’t know, I haven’t talked to him since then. I never said that Henry wasn’t doing well for himself. I never said that I was better than him, because no one can make such a judgment about another person (although you obviously believe you can). I never even said that I wasn’t a dork as well, because I was, and probably still am.

“He was distinguished for ignorance - for he had only one idea and that was wrong.” Was I wrong about Henry? Maybe I was. Maybe he had plenty of dates in high school that I never found out about. Maybe he didn’t play games all weekend (although it’ll be rather hard to discount this fact now). You haven’t tried to explain these things. You haven’t tried to explain any mistakes in my reasoning, counter my points, or question the validity of my statements. All you’ve done is make juvenile comments, based on absolutely nothing at that.

You would do a lot more for Henry’s cause by explaining his good qualities. Instead, I have to wade through the bullshit, the stuff that has no relevance whatsoever to what I originally wrote, to understand what you’re trying to say. Even if you did come up with a good argument now, it’d be hard to swallow. You’ve ruined any chance at giving an objective argument by coming on so strongly with your opinions and insults. Calm yourselves down. Approach this logically, not personally. Maybe then you’ll be able to change my opinion.

I never meant for Henry to read this. I didn’t call him up and harass him about it, or e-mail him a link. Alas, someone found out. Such is the internet. Much like TV, if you don’t like it, you don’t have to read it or watch it. By not ignoring this, and then taking the time to write a response, you’ve given it significance. If he’s way “cooler” than me, why do you comment? If I’m so boring, why do you visit, read, and tell your co-workers? Why do you even bother responding to a pathetic loser such as myself? I may be guilty of this last point as well, responding to your response, but it’s understandable that I do it. After all, I’m a loser with too much time on his hands. You guys? You have no excuse.

As for saying that my mom will be cleaning my titties, that I eat paint chips and lead pencils, or any of the other unfounded statements…Are we in grade 4 here? Is your argument so weak, that you feel the need to personally attack me? You’re doing more harm to Henry’s cause than good. Henry would never be so silly as to insult someone else (especially as illogically as you’ve done), or so crude as to pretend to be my mom and say that he fucked her. Insult me all you want; it’s as mindless and pointless as me saying that your parents never loved you and your dog is ugly. Would you take that seriously? You may show that you’re loyal friends to Henry — to which I say good for him — but you also show that you’re immature and insecure.

You make Henry sound so awesome that he doesn’t need to worry about the pathetic likes of me. Then why so zealously defend a person who doesn’t need it? Your actions directly contradict your words. Have I struck a nerve? Is what I said something you desperately wish wasn’t true or didn’t want to believe?

I’m sure that Henry is more secure about himself than you are about him. He knows that he has a good job, good friends, and a good life. He didn’t have to insult me to make himself feel better. He didn’t need to leave a comment here to prove anything. Now that’s saying a lot. More than all three of you combined.

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